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FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 8:00am PST
republican lawmaker says his party is not even trying to solve the fiscal cliff crisis and why he thinks that may be a good thing. interesting take coming up. >>> plus, russian president vladmir putin, have you heard what he did? taking aim at americans who hope to adopt russian children. what's behind this controversial move? a live report next. jon: right now syria's opposition leader is rejecting an invitation for peace talks as the violence escalates. the country's ally, russia, is inviting the leader of syria's opposition to visit moskow for the first time but that offer turned down. some interesting developments here. let's get them from leland vittert live in our mideast bureau. leland? >> reporter: jon, no one really views russia as an honest broker here especially the rebels who for so long seen russia side with pat assad in this conflict. they don't really want to deal with the russians, hence turning down the invitation. the rebels now think time is on their side. the momentum is on the battlefield has shifted. for so long the rebels were outgunned and outmaneuvered. they hold
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm PST
over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if washington. that shouldn't be the test here, it shouldn't be the consideration. but senator reid has had it within his power since spring to amend the house bill and send it back with whatever changes he wanted. that's what the constitution says. sadly, they've given speeches instead of getting the job done. but nobody, nobody wants taxes to go up on middle class americans. and i hope that everybody works real hard over the weekend. a lot of americans have to work on the weekend. i don't think it's a big deal that we have to work this weekend. >> it's not a big deal and you should all be working this weekend. listen, a few weeks ago it looked like speaker boehner and president obama were pretty close on a grand bargain. maybe not as big as should would hope. it looked like the president was saying, we'll raise that top rate and offer some entitlement reform. some talk of raising the medicare eligibility age. now because of where we're at do you fe
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 10:00am PST
-called fiscal cliff. something both democrats and republicans have called a worst case scenario. is temporarily going tv cliff is a best-case scenario for all parties involved? joining me now is maggie haberman. thank you for bog the show. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to play something that pat write murray said just a few days after the election from november. >> we just had an election where president obama ran on that. we increased our majority in the senate with democratic candidates who said that to solve this problem the wealthiest americans have to pay their fair share, too. so -- if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of the year where all of the tax cuts expire and we will start over next year and whatever we do will be a tax cut for whatever package we put together. >> when senator murray first said that there is a lot of -- anger on the gop saying she's willing to take us over the fiscal cliff. even some democrats said it was too early to have that mindset. but it seems to be that's what a lot of democrats would now like to see so they can
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 11:00am PST
that republicans are willing to take to avert the fiscal cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obv
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 1:00pm PST
reform trying to sell a fiscal cliff deal. he is was on meet the press. republicans weren't happy with that appearance because he they felt he was blaming them. new development in the last hour or two, vice president biden has come back from delaware. he is now here at the white house. he has had two phone calls with mitch mcconnell. in previous budget battles, joe biden has been the closer on these deals. his coming back from delaware might be a sign they are moving a little closer. that will be something to watch. the whole thing about changing cpi and reining in cost of entitlements, republicans are judging in on that. take a listen. >> one of proposals we made was something called change cpi but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is calculated on social security. highly unpopular among democrats not something supported but to strengthen social security in the long time i'm willing to make those decisions. >> reporter: in the morning, the president seemed to be opening the door to rein in those entitlements and then you heard harry reid shut the door on it.
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
between democrats and republicans on the fiscal cliff, we have learned of a bit of change this evening with the negotiations. for one, we have learned that the senate will reconvene tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. that means no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because
FOX News
Dec 27, 2012 10:00am PST
. because president obama perfectly going over the fiscal cliff to blame republicans because he can't default on the debt. he will have to compromise between now and february. second of all the baseline gets reset if the tax cuts expire. everybody will propose a tax cut in january and right now we're fighting whether to increase taxes or not. you can see possibility of a deal seen as win-win for both sides. third, if republicans don't come up with a deal, a bad deal right now, they still have the $800 billion in revenue they put on the table from limiting deductions and loopholes that they can use to buy down rates. so i think the odds are, after january 1 we will get a deal and it will be much more favorable deal to the republican party because we'll have the leverage and president obama won't. heather: simon, basically what mark's laid out there would be more of a bunge jump over the cliff instead after nosedive, what do you think about the possibility, good thing or bad? >> i think it is going to happen whether it is good or bad. hopefully in the first week to 10 days of the new
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 6:00pm PST
't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing games with the debt ceiling, that would be fiscal suicide. we breakthrough the debt ceiling, we're talking depression. not a quick recession. it would be the single stupidest and most damaging act of sabotage in american history. and it cannot be allowed to happen. and here, hopefully to tell me why it will not happen is alice, who probably knows more about the budget and the budget deals than probably anybody else alive. she's appointed to president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. and she's currently a senior fellow at the brookings instituti institution. thank you for being here tonight. >> happy to be here. >> you know much more about this than i do. you heard the intro, is there anything you want to add or correct anyway you see the fiscal cliff that you think people should know about? >> i thought your five points were good ones, especially the one about austerity, what we're talking about now is doing something really stupid as you said, and letting the wrong policies go into effect. t
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 10:00pm PST
passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting until the very last minute. maybe they're banking on pressure and the gop caving. what should americans make of that with so much at stake here? i think there's gamesmanship on both sides, that's obviously true, but i think democrats understand they get a better deal out of this if they actually go over the cliff. what the president was offering, his last round of offers, was in fact something that a lot of democrats and liberals did not take kindly to. in fact, when boehner was not able to pass plan b, he threw the president a lifeline and said nobody can be mad at you because i c
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
. . >>> while republicans and democrats angle over the fiscal cliff there's another storm going on within the gop involving the tea party and guns. one tea party group held a machine gun social, another a great gun giveaway and dick armey may have used guns to influence his fellow tea partiers. according to "the washington post" mr. armey recently marched into the office of freedom works. he was accompanied by his wife and also a man identified as a former capitol hill police officer who was volunteering his services as a security guard to mr. armey. now, the fact that this security guard was carrying a gun on his waist is a key detail because mr. armey's mission was so force his enemies in freedom works out of the organization. he was carrying out a purge, and the man with the gun actually escorted two of the targets of that purge out of the freedomworks building. so is this what the tea party has come to, an armed coup? hogan, with an intro like that, you know i got to start with you, my friend. >> of course. >> there's a lot of discord within your party between the fiscal cliff and gun
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00am PST
, republicans in congress tackle fiscal cliff. the most visible former elected official in the tea party and, of course, chairman of freedom works tried to oust several freedom works officials this fall. in fact, according to the post, army thieves control momentarily of the group. and he brought a gun carrying aide to remove rivals within the organization. but within a week, army was out. freedom works arranged an $8 million pay page for him. $8 million. that is more than the organization's entire annual budget in some years. over in the house, several tea party allies were recently stripped of their committee assignments by speaker boehner. so there are some problems there at the top. an influential conservative is lashing out. >> the tea party is going of to look at itself. it's been so helpful to the republican party in the past. it saved i by not going third party in 2010, helping the republicans sweep the house. but the tea party style of rage is not one that wins over convertes and makes people lean toward them and say, i want to listen to you. >> so there is some real trouble there f
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 1:00pm PST
, the vice president, and the treasury secretary trying to hammer out a fiscal cliff deal. the meeting began about an hour ago in what could be the final face-to-face meeting between the president and lawmakers of both parties before monday's midnight deadline. the house is scheduled to reconvene on sunday evening to do what we don't exactly know. so joining us live from the white house is nbc's kristin welker. kristin, welcome. >> reporter: thanks, karen. good afternoon. >> so what are we hearing about this meeting? i know it's still going on. any news? >> reporter: well, we do know this, a source familiar with these talks says that president obama is not going to be offering anything new during this afternoon's meeting. he's essentially going to be saying what he said at the white house last friday when he called on congress to put forth a package that would extend bush era tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less, extend unemployment insurance benefits, as well as stave off some of those deep spending cuts that are set to go into effect. the president is going to make the argument that
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 10:00pm PST
. >>> the other big story is the action or inaction on capitol hill. if lawmakers do not reach a fiscal cliff agreement, you could see your taxes sky rocket and deep spending cuts kick in. major sticking points, spending cuts, entitlements and tax increases. house republicans have ended their meetings for the night. we'll find out tomorrow whether they've made any progress in their talks. any deal would have to get enough votes to pass the senate and the house. president obama says sandy hook school shooting was the worst day of his presidency. americans will have to explore their own feelings when his gun law reform proposals come out next year. >> the question then becomes, whether we are actually shook up enough by what happened here, that it does not just become another one of these routine episodes where it gets a lot of attention for a couple weeks and then it drifts away. it certainly won't feel like that to me. >> the president says the law he's pushing will address assault style rifles, high capacity magazines and background checks. >>> the fiscal cliff, it's not the only deadline pr
FOX News
Dec 29, 2012 1:00pm PST
to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama is pressing a basic proposal previously rejected by republicans. >> gregg: and in moscow, at least four people are dead, four more seriously injured after a passenger plane crashed while landing at one of russia's busiest airports. >> arthel: the u.n. envoy for syria somebodying a dire warning today in a meeting with russia's foreign minister saying the country's civil war could plunge the entire region into chaos unless something is done to solve the refugee crisis. >>> fox extreme weather alert. the northeast[5uzi facing yet ar powerful snow storm in less than a week. look at those picturing, adding up to a heap of trouble for holiday travelers on the roads and at the airports. the storm has already hit the ohio valley and now it is cranking up wind and snow as it moves to the northeast. meg baker of wtxf is live in north town, pen opinion -- pen opinion. it looks dark behind you. i'm trying to see how bad it is. >> it's been a winter wonderland for parts of greater philadelphia area. we're in north town where we see about three inches of snow t
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 4:00pm PST
. congressman, good to see you. could you back that scaled back plan to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> as i said all along, republicans don't want taxes to go up on anyone. if we have an impasse on january 1st, they go up on everyone. so at some point, i think that we republicans have got to realize that if we can't save everybody, we need to try to save as many people as possible. that's not advocating a tax increase. if a lifeguard sees ten people drowning off his beach and can only save nine of them, it doesn't mean he's drowned the tenth one. >> you're a strong, fiscal conservative, but part of that problem solvers camp who's not going to let the whole country go off the cliff. but what about your fellow fiscal conservatives? are there going to be enough of you to support a pared down plan that does raise taxes on 2% of americans? >> no, it doesn't raise taxes. those tax increases will go into effect. there's no bill before the congress that raises taxes. there are many bills that are trying to stop those taxes in various forms. and let me be clear. i think the president's plan
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 6:00am PST
and republicans -- that we could go over the fiscal cliff. >> well, enjoy the beach there then. i mean, what do you say at this point? you've just got to keep your fingers crossed and your toes and everything else. brianna keilar reporting live from honolulu this morning. >>> let's talk about the gun control debate because it's intensifying following the connecticut school shooting massacre. the nra's president wayne lapierre went on nbc's "meet the press" this weekend saying call him crazy for wanting to put armed security officers in schools. he doesn't mind. nra president david kean told cbs' "face the nation," a ban on assault weapons won't stop mass killings. >> we debated this before. we had a so-called assault weapons ban for ten years. we had what senator feinstein is suggesting. it was allowed to expire. the fbi, the justice department, and others who studied it said it made no difference. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> despite the national rifle association's opposition to any new gun laws, p
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
the fiscal cliff. why? after january 1st, when everyone's taxes go up, the new congress sworn this on january 3rd could vote to cut taxes. a much easier vote to cast for republicans as well as some democrats. as for the president, is he nhe scheduled to leave his family tonight, come back to washington tomorrow morning, in the hopes of helping his fellow democrats try to find enough republicans to pass his plan. but of course this goes without saying that was a plan that most if not all republicans campaigned very strongly against. >> the most likely scenario is actually did go off the cliff now. ryan liza is our correspondent from washington. you look at this and we're hearing echos of the past. the republican speaker from the house of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denn
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 1:00pm PST
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats jam the republicans in congress, it's mostly going to be about extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class, which will mean letting them expire for the rich. that will net somewhere around $600 billion in new tax revenue. the white house will pocket that. they will have got in three quarters of what they wanted last year, before even the negotiations had really kicked off. then we're going to go over the cliff and the pressure will mount quickly to strike another deal. republicans are still going to want entitlement cuts sop the white house will insist that the next deal include a dollar in tax increases for every dollar in spending cuts. so in that next deal, image republicans want $800 billion in spending cuts, a number of they've kicked around before. democrats will say they need that much in taxes, too. and because they've already raised rates, they got those middle class tax cuts extended, and
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 3:00am PST
, after the fiscal cliff hits and they get blamed. it is an odd way to negotiate. to get one republican view on what will come next year, early this evening, shortly after the president's press conference, i had the privilege to speaking to republican senator tom coburn of oklahoma. senator, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> glad to be with you, ezra. >> it so seems to me the news of the day is the big deal is dead, completely dead, and we are down to either a small down, a mini deal, or going after the cliff straight. what is your reaction to this? >> i don't -- you know, i'm not sure that's true. just talking to my colleagues in the senate, i think the middle ground is pretty well known by everybody, and i think you could still get something that would be viewed by the ratings agencies as well as the american public as a pretty good solution. so i think it's possible. i don't know that that will happen. it's unfortunate that we're waiting until this late in the hour to try to accomplish something. >> so, then, what do you see as that middle ground? i know you're a member of
FOX News
Dec 24, 2012 10:00am PST
who coined the phrase fiscal cliff. he says if we fall off of it in seven or eight days, that's going to lead to yet another recession. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in
CNN
Dec 24, 2012 11:00am PST
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
CNN
Dec 27, 2012 1:00pm PST
on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that would give -- that would give to middle class americans. that passed the senate. now, we know that republicans have buried themselves in procedural road blocks, everything we try to do around here. and now they are saying, well, we can't do the 250 because it wasn't blue-slipped, because it will be blue-slipped. mr. president, how does the american people react to that? there was a bill introduced by the ways and means committee in the house, sandy levin that called for this legislation. the speaker was going to bring it up to kill it but he kobt kill it and then we moved to plan b, the debacle of all debacles. it's the mother of all debacles. that was brought up in an effort to send us something. he couldn't even pass it among the republicans it was so absurd. he meaning the speaker. so it's very clear now, mr. president, that
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 7:00am PST
and vote on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. in his first sunday talk show appearance in three years, president obama today called for congress to at least extend middle class tax cuts and unemployment benefits if no fiscal deal is reached. tax hike increase take effect january 1st. >>> the situation in the war-torn country is getting worse by the day. this weekend is proving him right. opposition activists say at least 397 people were killed across syria yesterday alone. if true, the deadliest day yet in almost two years in the civil war. the opizatiposition says more t 200 killed following a battle. >>> new england is getting a heavy dose of snow and freezing temperatures. boston is expected to get up to eight inches and the city's mayor has declared a snow emergency. neighboring rhode island is also getting pounded over a foot of snow has already fallen in some parts of that state. >>> some good news this morning about former president george h.w. bush. we're told he is improving and has been moved out of the intensive care unit of the houston hospital where he was being treated f
FOX News
Dec 28, 2012 7:00pm PST
now we are coming up 73.5 hours of going over the fiscal cliff the one that they are pushing us off and everyone s scrambling to scrap scrape toga solution. is the house doing anything at all. congressman aaron schact joins us. >> good evening, sir. >> republicans blame democrats and democrats blame republicans and the leadership as it goes beyond that you have political oh opponents it but you rise above it and have solutions for the american people. where is that leadership? >> it has been lacking without doubt and look, kudos to you for holding elected officials feet to the fire. my party and colleagues and myself included it is frustrating as a house member. i can't be a house member and senator and president all at once. the house has led. we have tried to be the party of ideas. the body of ideas. as you know this summer we passed a bill to keep tax rates low for everyone. it has been dead in the senate. harry reid won't take it up. after the election john boehner got criticism even from my party saying look, mr. president we will meet you halfway and give you the $800 billion
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 9:00pm PST
cliff talks. let me tell you what's going to happen today. speaker john boehner, the republican speaker, is going to try to pass what he calls his plan b, which would just simply address tax rates for those making a million dollars or more and that's it. >> john boehner walked away from the obama administration's third offer. a giant, giant compromise. so he didn't like it when they led. he didn't like the decision. he decided instead to chart his own course called plan b. plan b was supposed to show president obama that republicans had their own solution and instead of bothering with his offer they would just go ahead and pass their own plan without him. that was the idea, anyway. >> there is breaking news to report tonight out of washington. strange breaking news out of washington. within the last hour republican house speaker john boehner appears to have completely lost control of his own caucus. just about an hour ago john boehner was forced to pull his own plan off the floor because it turns out he did not have the votes from his own side to pass it. he didn't have enough republica
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 6:00am PST
. the house had two bills that collectively can avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number k
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 7:00pm PST
off the fiscal cliff. president is flying back to washington tonight unconcern what kind of deal making possibles he will find when we will come back. republican leaders made no decision about when to call their members back nor it is clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of digging tonight for cnn's dana bash. i know we don't have any decisions out of the call but do question have a sense what republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we to see a vote in time to avoid going of the cliff? >> it is in part the reason why house republicans didn't make a decision to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is in the senate's courts especially with senate democrats. that has changed big time since a few weeks ago. at this point what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scaled-back bill focusing on tax cuts and on what he campaigned on which is only keeping the cuts in place for those making over $2
CNN
Dec 28, 2012 6:00pm PST
crowley in washington with the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. there was a big meeting at the white house today between the president and the four leaders, two republicans and two democrats on capitol hill. senator harry reid told reporters afterwards that the next 24 hours would be very important, as he and republican leader mitch mcconnell try to put together something that would pass both of their caucuses, that republicans in the senate would vote for and that democrats in the senate would vote for. and then, of course, it would have to go to the house. now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term unemployment benefits, a continuation of those. that would be sort of the plan b for democrats simply because what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid said he's awaiting good faith propos
CNN
Dec 29, 2012 7:00pm PST
and democrats, we understand, are talking about right now. what else is at stake in the fiscal cliff? let's look at some other issues, things that we're not sure will be in a deal that comes out this week. at the top of that list, government spending cuts. that's about 8% to 10% in cuts to most every federal agency. also a pay cut for medicare doctors of 27% that would hit after january 1st. finally, don, there are a slew of other tax hikes. the alternative minimum tax is one that people talk about. the estate tax. these are all things that would affect average americans and which would hit on january 1st. so the fiscal cliff, it might be even bigger than people realize. don? >> lisa, thank you very much. >>> we've got a lot more planned for you this saturday night. here's what else is ahead. as our lawmakers wrestle with u.s. gun violence, chicago hits an awful milestone. 500 murders this year and counting. what's to blame? a former gang member and chicago's police superintendent join me live. >>> plus, president obama could tap this republican to lead the defense department. but not everyone w
FOX News
Dec 26, 2012 8:00am PST
is not favorable to republicans at this moment about the fiscal cliff and the markets out there again could be very, very harsh if there is no deal. so i don't know about christmas cheer but i think there are certain political realities that say there's got to be something done, even if it's a temporary patch that allows them to say we're going to have the big vote in terms of the cuts and tax hikes and reform, you know, in a few weeks. but they have got to do something in the short term or they're going to be dire consequences. i don't think that is any hyperbole, kelly, it is just the truth. kelly: just the truth. bottom line so i let you go, what is your next guess, deal or no deal? >> i think they get some kind of deal. it may pass the january 1st, december 31st deadline to get the house vote but i think you will see something done. kelly: maybe a pared down version but something will get done. kelly, have a happy holiday. >> you too, juan. jamie: the taliban is claiming responsibility for a homicide car bombing in khost. it is at the very same base where seven cia employees were killed three y
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 10:00pm PST
off the fiscal cliff, president obama is cutting his hawaiien family vacation short. flying back to washington tonight. unwhat kind of deal-making possibilities he will find when he gets back. house republican leaders held a conference call but no decision when to call members back nor is it clear what kind of deal, if any, they will have to vote on. a lot of moving pieces and a lot of digging for cnn's dana bash. i understand there were no decisions out of the call. do we have any sense what fellow republicans are telling speaker boehner? how likely are we going to see a vote before going over the cliff? >> it's up in the air. i'm told it is in part why house republicans didn't make a decision whether to bring the house back or when to do it. the ball is really in the senate's court, specifically with senate democrats. that changed big time since a couple of weeks ago. at this point what senate democrats are trying to figure out is whether or not they can find enough republicans to cross party lines for what the president proposed right before he left for hawaii which is a scale
FOX News
Dec 30, 2012 11:00am PST
you thought we were going to go over the fiscal cliff. now, we are in the midst of a lot of last ditch pa bargaining between the senate leaders reid and mcconnell. what do you think of the chances for a small deal in the next less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. i think what have we accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground and he will get tax rate increases. maybe not at 250 but on upper income americans and the sad news for the country s that we accomplished very little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in asp republicans. but hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: you don't think some of the more conservative colleagues will filibuster or set up a procedural road block? they will vote to avoid going over the cliff? >> no,
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
-called fiscal cliff, if we get to january 1st and no deal, i think there's a universal expectation that for 98% of the country, the income tax thing addressed within a week or two. neither democrats or republicans let that go completely. the amt is fixed basically every year. that's going to be fixed eventually. it looks like looking at the reports of the offer that obama is supposedly making this afternoon, going to tell republicans, yeah, you win on the estate tax if you take the offer and only thing talking about is the payroll tax. that's already obama apparently gave up on it two weeks ago and gone no matter what and only the refundables. >> yep. >> you're talking about hugely important to the working poor but for the vast majority of the country, it's almost ir el vant. we are just -- >> they aren't tax credits and what you fill out when you fill out your taxes which won't happen until 2014. if they're in effect, it costs the average family an extra $3,400 or so but in the first week, two weeks, actually, costs the average family about $40 and that's the payroll tax and if it's in effect
CNN
Dec 30, 2012 6:00am PST
't they have to get past a few issues before they can start reshaping themselves and fiscal cliff? >> this is, they're going to have to figure out where they are on taxes and figure out where they are on immigration. i think if you look at those two issues, you're going to figure out what direction the republicans have, if they have decided to take one. >> karen, thank you. jerry, jessica, matt, thanks, you guys, for being here. >>> when we return, the politics of procrastination. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> for all we don't know about what a final fiscal cliff bill will look like, we do know it will be minimalist and not address the tough s
CNN
Dec 26, 2012 11:00pm PST
solution. quote/unquote solution. when you look at the fiscal cliff if you think the deficit is the problem, going over the cliff addresses that problem in a big way. >> saying no deal's better than a bad deal. >> once we go over the cliff and i come to the belief we are, we're going to all be asking for a parachute. the markets are going to go to hell in a hand basket and people are going to start screaming bloody murder. >> if the idea that the deficit is the problem, that will be addressed by going over the fiscal cliff. i happen not to think that the deficit is the main problem but it calls people's bluff. >> how in the world is it we can tell our children, you can't give your way up everything, so you and your brother and sister, you better figure it out. it works with my nieces and nephews, but for some reason, if it works in congress, it's a mushy deal or really isn't going to work. i'm sorry, folks, if it works for children. it can work with congress. >> stop the sand box politics. i couldn't agree more. we heard one congressman at the top of the show saying they shouldn't have gone
FOX News
Dec 26, 2012 10:00am PST
are quietly saying that they think it's better to go over the fiscal cliff rather than go ahead and delay the tax increases and more importantly the spending cuts. the other thing you get out of that is if you allow the tax increases to go into effect a lot of those republicans think they have a better shot at tax reform next year when you instantly have a broader tax base. the numbers are sort of come complex. when the bush tax cuts went into effect fewer people had an income tax liability. this is what mitt romney was talking about last year with the 47%. if the tax rates increase you all of a sudden have more people paying income taxes and you just have a broader, higher rate to play with. next year when they come back they can get rid of some of the duck -ts and what not and lower the rates and overall have a lot more money in the system to play with, a lot more options. they think they are better shape for tax reform if they come back next year with the rates having gone up. >> reporter: and by not allowing the president to just add nah see um raise the debt level, they have leverage
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